The anti-climate science nonsense being promulgated by ratbag groups such as Quadrant, the IPA and the utterly degenerate and despicable Catallaxy blog depend on the rantings of a handful of so-called ‘sceptics’. According to the DeSmogblog in a series of posts (the earliest is here) the most prominent of these sceptics are being paid monthly retainers by the libertarian Heartland Institute that are funded by the usual interest groups. Heartland has in the past acted on behalf of carcinogen producers to lie about the dangers of secondary tobacco smoke – its senior personnel were in the employ of these tobacco producers – so its antics should not be unexpected. But the naiveté of the right-wing fools who promulgate and consume the lies spread by this group is surprising.
The dangerous implications of these lies rests in their success in turning the science of climate change into a so-called debate between ‘two sides’ even though the science of climate change is clear. This has been seriously damaging to the cause of trying to take foster community resolve to address climate change and damages the future world that our children will live in. All of those involved – the so-called ‘scientists’ who spread the sceptical nonsense, the right-wing ignoramuses who disperse their lies through blogs, the gutter press and the mindless sheep who provide an audience for these lies and who endlessly recycle their wrong arguments deserve the community’s condemnation. More than that an awareness of the role of such interest group lobbies in undermining informed debate needs to be understood.
It is part of a pattern for this camp – lies on climate science, crank macroeconomic theories and crank views on taxation and the use of economic instruments to address externalities. They are all part of the same web of deceit.
Bob Carter denies here that he is a mouthpiece for Heartland but does not deny he gets paid a monthly retainer by them. Bob is one of the crew of right-wing ideologues who present their views regularly in the News Corporation media such as the Australian – for example this.
Heartland claim one of the documents cited is fraudulent but do not deny the allegations above that they paid climate change denialists. DesSmogblog does not retreat from its position. Wait for a new program of lies from Catallaxy and the IPA – these are the experts in deceit.
Update: DeSmogblog point out an interesting tactic of Heartland. Raise a question about 1 document in 100 pages of documents and seek to throw doubts on the whole lot.
Update: ASIC documents suggest the denialist Australian Climate Science Coalition (Carter, Evans, Kininmonth, Plimer etc) get most of their funding from Heartland. (1408)
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Follow the money Harry!
http://joannenova.com.au/2012/02/logic-gate-the-smog-blog-exposes-irrational-rage-innumeracy-and-heartlands-efficient-success/
Thanks for the promotion:)
Getting a bit hot under the collar?
If dangerous man made warming is real, why hasn’t the globe warmed up over the last 15 years like the alarmist said it would as the CO2 levels have risen.
It’s a con Harry, and you have been taken hook, line and sinker.
Go girlfriend, we all love the ad hom’s you are throwing at those despicable Denialistas. It is really helping people believe in the faith.
Keep it up!
Pathetic, you have demeaned yourself. Meantime my paper you rejected has been accepted by an international SCIENCE journal, after 4 peer reviews, I have just received the galley proofs.
Whoever wrote this the real ratbag.
You’re losing it Harry. This is in the same file as the “truther” and “birther” conspiracies. Get a grip.
Gosh…not one post in defence of the Global Warmists! Says it all, doesn’t it?
Looooosers
Harry:
You’re starting to remind people of Les Patterson, but without the charm. Easy up pardna.
(Ed) You are banned on this blog JC, shoot through.
Gold! Funniest thing I’ve read all month!
You’re missed over at Catallaxy, Harry. You enliven the place.
Come back soon, y’hear.
If he stops misbehaving like this, it would be okay, Gab. I dunno what’s got into him other than the grog.
(Ed) You are banned from this blog JC. Shoot through.
Harry, anyone who uses the term “denialist” to smear AGW sceptics is a wanker.
Bugger off JC
Climate change is NATURAL and CO2 is LIFE anything else is CRAP.All the Computer Models (garbage in =Garbage out) prove nothing,you could of course look out your window and enjoy the endless WONDER of our EVER changing WORLD.CHEERS
But do not forget Joseph Bast and Joe Camel This mess goes far deeper than a few documents …
and there was a reason I was so delighted that Robert Proctor’s book Golden Holocaust finally came out.
See 0.7 of my report for Robert’s tobacco playbook and its adaptation to climate anti-science.
Bast passionately defended Joe Camel …and then begged for more money.
Harry, what do you think Flannery is spreading, at our expense?
Tim Flannery is trying to wake people up to the very real problems that are likely to arise with climate change.
Rafe you are old and ignorant. You cannot write and your postings are feeble more than stupid. Your claimed right-wing values don’t ring true – ‘methinks he doth protest too much’. Your claims are the last hurrah of a foolish old man. Call it quits.
Tim Flannery is someone to admire.
Tim Flannery lives at the bottom of my garden where he produces a never ending supply of BS for my veggies.The quantity is really something to admire.
Harry you remind me of Ian Plimer. Heard him speak not long ago, to a sympathetic audience. Was very struck by how angry he is, how sincerely he holds his views and how intolerant he is of those with a different view, to the point of demonising them.
Ros, I dispute the claim of symmetry here or that there are two sides to this debate. As John Quiggin has said there are no honest, non-gullible climate change deniers. Unlike Plimer I am not rejecting modern science and arguing for policies based on this rejection. Is Plimer sincere? why doers he not acknowledge and correct the numerous errors in his book?
Deleted, troll.
Down here in Almost Costa del Tassie, we are great encouragers of climate change. Roll on the warmer climate. It sure beats the ice that used to cover the entire island.
When senior German Greens are writing whole books saying the IPCC is wrong, there is a real issue Harry.
Missed that one MACK1. Could you cite a reference?
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Here’s that news report, hc.
http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/former_warmist_i_feel_duped/
I deliberately gave the Bolt reference. You can follow links from there, if you can bring yourself to visit Bolt’s blog.
Harry – your own comments policy states
“I will not tolerate personal, abusive language at all.”
How do you reconcile this to your own comment above:
“Rafe you are old and ignorant. You cannot write and your postings are feeble more than stupid. Your claimed right-wing values don’t ring true – ‘methinks he doth protest too much’. Your claims are the last hurrah of a foolish old man. Call it quits.”
??
Samuel, You are one of the other nasty clots at Catallaxy that I do not wish to engage with. What I said about Rafe is accurate. He can’t put a sentence together and many of his posts involve links without any intelligent input to fellow clots like Jo Nova. Such views not wanted or sought here.
I suspect we agree on 95 per cent of issues Harry.