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		<title>By: hc</title>
		<link>http://www.harryrclarke.com/2009/05/31/chinese-climate-change-policies/comment-page-1/#comment-589</link>
		<dc:creator>hc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 00:06:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The last link is excellent Peter - I&#039;d better get to work now putting some ideas together!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The last link is excellent Peter &#8211; I&#8217;d better get to work now putting some ideas together!</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Wood</title>
		<link>http://www.harryrclarke.com/2009/05/31/chinese-climate-change-policies/comment-page-1/#comment-584</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Wood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 06:41:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops, seems like my link above for the summary of China mitigation did not work. It should be this http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/2009/06/china_energy_numbers.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops, seems like my link above for the summary of China mitigation did not work. It should be this <a href="http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/2009/06/china_energy_numbers.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/2009/06/china_energy_numbers.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Peter Wood</title>
		<link>http://www.harryrclarke.com/2009/05/31/chinese-climate-change-policies/comment-page-1/#comment-574</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Wood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 12:03:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Julian Wong and Andrew Light from the Center for American Progress have a good summary of present Chinese mitigation activities here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Julian Wong and Andrew Light from the Center for American Progress have a good summary of present Chinese mitigation activities here.</p>
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		<title>By: hc</title>
		<link>http://www.harryrclarke.com/2009/05/31/chinese-climate-change-policies/comment-page-1/#comment-560</link>
		<dc:creator>hc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 11:34:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Peter, That&#039;s right because the Garnaut Report was predicated on 450 ppm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Peter, That&#8217;s right because the Garnaut Report was predicated on 450 ppm.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Wood</title>
		<link>http://www.harryrclarke.com/2009/05/31/chinese-climate-change-policies/comment-page-1/#comment-556</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Wood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 06:45:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The podcasts and powerpoint presentations on the Australia-China Climate Change Formum website are well worth checking out. Jiahua Pan from CASS, who spoke at the forum, more recently gave an interview to the fairfax press, which was reported in the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.smh.com.au/environment/global-warming/china-pans-us-over-climate-demands-20090527-bnqo.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;SMH &lt;/a&gt; and the Age. Professor Pan was quite critical of Australia&#039;s proposed 2020 targets.

There are also some reports on bilateral talks between the US and China at Joe Romm&#039;s climate progress blog which may be worth checking out.

Prof Stephen Howes also recently gave a seminar on post-Kyoto proposals from China at http://rspas.anu.edu.au/rmap/seminars.php .

The Chinese carbon budget proposals are probably less generous to high per-capita emitters that contraction and convergence approaches. In his talk Garnaut noted that &quot;at some time during this century, I suggested 2050 but we can discuss the appropriate date, there will need to be a convergence on equal per-capita emissions&quot;. The suggestion from Garnaut and others that a 25% reduction by 2020 on 2000 levels for Australia would be consistent with a stabilisation target of 450 ppm CO2-e is partially based on a convergence date of 2050. A 2050 convergence date would be considered by many low per-capita emitters as quite generous to high per-capita emitters. For this reason, a 25% reduction by Australia would not be considered by developing countries to be sufficient.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The podcasts and powerpoint presentations on the Australia-China Climate Change Formum website are well worth checking out. Jiahua Pan from CASS, who spoke at the forum, more recently gave an interview to the fairfax press, which was reported in the <a href="http://www.smh.com.au/environment/global-warming/china-pans-us-over-climate-demands-20090527-bnqo.html" rel="nofollow">SMH </a> and the Age. Professor Pan was quite critical of Australia&#8217;s proposed 2020 targets.</p>
<p>There are also some reports on bilateral talks between the US and China at Joe Romm&#8217;s climate progress blog which may be worth checking out.</p>
<p>Prof Stephen Howes also recently gave a seminar on post-Kyoto proposals from China at <a href="http://rspas.anu.edu.au/rmap/seminars.php" rel="nofollow">http://rspas.anu.edu.au/rmap/seminars.php</a> .</p>
<p>The Chinese carbon budget proposals are probably less generous to high per-capita emitters that contraction and convergence approaches. In his talk Garnaut noted that &#8220;at some time during this century, I suggested 2050 but we can discuss the appropriate date, there will need to be a convergence on equal per-capita emissions&#8221;. The suggestion from Garnaut and others that a 25% reduction by 2020 on 2000 levels for Australia would be consistent with a stabilisation target of 450 ppm CO2-e is partially based on a convergence date of 2050. A 2050 convergence date would be considered by many low per-capita emitters as quite generous to high per-capita emitters. For this reason, a 25% reduction by Australia would not be considered by developing countries to be sufficient.</p>
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		<title>By: hc</title>
		<link>http://www.harryrclarke.com/2009/05/31/chinese-climate-change-policies/comment-page-1/#comment-496</link>
		<dc:creator>hc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 05:50:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Shiro, these are very useful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Shiro, these are very useful.</p>
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		<title>By: Shiro Armstrong</title>
		<link>http://www.harryrclarke.com/2009/05/31/chinese-climate-change-policies/comment-page-1/#comment-495</link>
		<dc:creator>Shiro Armstrong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 04:54:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Harry, http://www.eastasiaforum.org/2009/05/03/dispelling-illusions-on-china-and-climate-change/ also has a view from a well placed researcher at CASS in China. 
Also, one of three Chinese proposals for a framework for a global agreement (they all involve a carbon budget and international trading): http://www.anu.edu.au/climatechange/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/12-zhang-australia-china-climate-change-forum.pdf
The other key feature they have in common is that they are all based on production accounting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Harry, <a href="http://www.eastasiaforum.org/2009/05/03/dispelling-illusions-on-china-and-climate-change/" rel="nofollow">http://www.eastasiaforum.org/2009/05/03/dispelling-illusions-on-china-and-climate-change/</a> also has a view from a well placed researcher at CASS in China.<br />
Also, one of three Chinese proposals for a framework for a global agreement (they all involve a carbon budget and international trading): <a href="http://www.anu.edu.au/climatechange/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/12-zhang-australia-china-climate-change-forum.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.anu.edu.au/climatechange/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/12-zhang-australia-china-climate-change-forum.pdf</a><br />
The other key feature they have in common is that they are all based on production accounting.</p>
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		<title>By: hc</title>
		<link>http://www.harryrclarke.com/2009/05/31/chinese-climate-change-policies/comment-page-1/#comment-493</link>
		<dc:creator>hc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 04:18:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s a nice link, thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s a nice link, thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: MikeM</title>
		<link>http://www.harryrclarke.com/2009/05/31/chinese-climate-change-policies/comment-page-1/#comment-491</link>
		<dc:creator>MikeM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 03:47:14 +0000</pubDate>
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